"I do not know the full story," she says, and it's carefully said; it happened to people Makie barely knew and she only heard of it from the sidelines, but it's clearly important to Chuuya, so she dredges up what she can remember. It was a distasteful story then and it's just as distasteful now.

"One immortal was taken by the Shogunate and experimented on in an attempt to learn the secrets to his immortality. The immortal later escaped and Edo castle was severely damaged." By Rin, she does not say. She heard that secondhand and has no idea how much truth there is to it.

"The experiments were deemed immoral soon afterward and the man responsible ordered to commit seppuku."

Except they gave him a time limit of one year to get his affairs in order, which meant he chose to make Kagehisa's life a living hell as his last deed. Makie had little love for the Shogunate before these events, and she certainly had none now.